Kid Start Now – P’s First Holiday Camp
A few months ago I was sitting around planting seeds of enthusiasm into P’s brain for some sort of holiday camp.
“What’s a holiday camp?” The inclusion of the word “camp” had obviously caught his attention.
“Well, you know what it isn’t? It isn’t school. Nope. Not school.”
The truth was I hadn’t decided what sort of camp to try out. I was thinking along the lines of drama, but wasn’t sure if the goal should be to develop his Chinese skills so he can keep up in class with his bilingual peers, to develop his social skills so he can get along better with other people, or to develop his acting skills so he doesn’t do this next time I ask him to go stand up next to the train and pretend to be getting on so I can take a photo:
Then Pamela at Kid Start Now emailed me offering a complimentary four-day immersion course, sorry, camp, and my mind started racing. I don’t intend to get all into PR on this blog, but she’d written such a nicely-targeted personal email (very different from the usual spam letters offering once-in-a-lifetime opportunities to alienate readers by posting irrelevant infographics) that I felt I should give it some serious thought. But the thinking confused me so I instead handed the question to P who said yes, so I said great! and KidStartNow Chinese Immersion Class Holiday Camp it was.
So to make things extra-clear, P got a complimentary four-day-long Chinese immersion holiday camp from KidStartNow which I’ll tell you about in this post. I’m also going to tell you what my experience with KidStartNow taught me about introducing a foreign language as a monolingual parent. Skip to the summary.
“Are they going to be speaking Chinese?”
Like most things P willingly signs up for and later rates as enjoyable, it all started with an argument about whether or not he would go.
“But are they going to be speaking all in Chinese?” he asked at the last possible moment.
“At a Chinese immersion school? Most probably yes.”
“Then I don’t want to go after all. Anyway, it’s not a school, it’s a camp.”
“Right! Right. Camp. But you said you’d go and they did send you that very exciting surprise invitation…”
So led by the exciting surprise invite, we went. By the time P had defensively made sure his new teacher understood that he didn’t have a Chinese name, couldn’t speak any Chinese and was pretty sure the whole thing was just a waste of everyone’s time, I’d concluded I wasn’t likely to enter a future of lucrative invitations to awesome celebrity blogging events which would, after all, only spoil my common touch. But Teacher Lee just smiled patiently and before I knew it P had swanned off with a crab on his head, not to mix metaphors.
I sat down to watch via the TV screen in the waiting area. What happened next shocked me.
He spoke in Chinese. Actually not such bad Chinese, either. You have to understand I’d never really heard him try before – he’d always refused to perform when asked, coyly insisting (through his actions, if not his words) that it was the “wrong” language for the social situation at hand, what with me being all English-speaking and so on. And of course it’s just hard to hold a conversation with yourself: anyone who’s fielded requests to “say something in language X” will know what I mean.
At break I asked if he realised I’d been watching and he got a bashful grin on his face like he’d been caught hiding his talents and there was no point denying it now. Then he skipped back into the classroom camp for the second hour.
“But I want you to watch our show.”
“Going back for a second day of school?” Æ asked the next morning.
“It’s a camp, Dad.”
“That’s right, it is, too. I forgot. But you’re going?”
P agreed without argument this time, and only some of that credit goes to the after-camp ice-cream we had downstairs. The first day had gone “swimmingly” – except for twenty minutes near the end, when P started, without notice, to unravel. And if you’ve recently watched the film adaptation of Coraline and the word “unravel” is bringing up some pretty dark imagery involving but-I-thought-you-were-nice bug-demons you’re in the right zone. On the bus afterwards, he’d wept until I’d repeatedly promised not to leave him on board even if he fell asleep, after which he’d spent the rest of the journey lying absolutely still in my lap, staring out at the sky.
The truth is he doesn’t get many opportunities to work in a foreign language for two hours’ straight, and even when it’s fun, it’s tiring. Perhaps especially when it’s fun, because that’s when he’s most engaged. And my goodness, he had been engaged – for a whole hour forty minutes. Unprecedented. No wonder he was worn out.
But what impressed me was the way Teacher Lee not only remained patient and in control, but also adapted to the needs of the class. Subsequent lessons included a lively language game towards the end to keep everyone fully awake and on board.
There were no further tears on the bus. Meanwhile, us parents had our own lesson (camplette?), on the program itself. KidStartNow runs the holiday camp as a four-day-long story, facilitated entirely in Chinese. Games, props, and animated storybooks provide tools for the activities, with points awarded for various tasks along the way. Character-building messages are part of the curriculum, and there are also e-books to read at home to keep the lesson going. You can read more about the structure of the holiday camp on the KidStartNow website. They also run programs for term time.
By the third day everything appeared so much under control that I dared to duck out for some tea. “But I want you to watch our show!” P said when he found out. And he studied the waiting-room screen closely, looking for centre stage.
“Laoshi, wode pengyou huijiale ma?”
P soon became fiercely competitive about the points (gah), with which he was able to “buy” stickers – although in a touching twist, some April students opted to purchase gifts for Mother’s Day instead. All part of the learning.
My reward came the following week, though, when camp finished, and school started again. P turned back to kindy to ask if his friend had gone home yet, and saw his Chinese teacher standing at the door. Without awkwardness or hesitation, he asked, “Laoshi, wode pengyou huijiale ma?” and when she answered in Chinese the conversation flowed through several exchanges. “By golly, it’s worked,” I thought with surprise.
Later I asked P for his impressions – had the class gone ok, despite being all in Chinese?
“The camp, you mean.”
“Sure – the camp.”
“It was ok that it was in Chinese,” he said. “I already knew a lot of the words.” Knew, but hesitantly. It took a new setting with different people and a TV screen to give him confidence in his abilities. Still, I wondered how much he’d understood and remembered.
“What was the moral of the story you guys worked on?”
“Even things that seem scary might not be as scary as they first appear.” I think he was referring to the shark character, who turned out to be misunderstood, but you and I can see the broader lesson.
Quick Review and KidStartNow info:
- The KidStartNow holiday camp is a series of four two-hour-long sessions. It’s recommended for children from three to six years old. Class sizes are small (maximum eight).
- We liked it! We would go back. I’m considering putting T into a class in future. She is younger and has less ability in Chinese but is also more willing to wing it and would therefore probably be fine.
- P’s starting ability: P, who is six, has been taking the normal Chinese class at his school for three years, and the extra enrichment class at his school for eighteen months. Otherwise, he gets little exposure to the Chinese language and generally won’t speak it if asked.
- The two-hour program was the right amount of time to challenge P’s language abilities but not quite so long that his brains melted into a puddle.
- The teacher was able to adapt her lessons to suit the class and keep everyone engaged for the entire two-hour period, which helped with the puddle-melting.
- Highlights for P were the story and the points system. And let’s face it, that crab hat had a little something, too.
- The TV screens worked well to give parents the ability to unobtrusively “sit in” and gave P the feeling that he was “putting on a TV show for mum outside”.
- The next holiday camp runs from 29 Jul – 1 Aug, 9-11am – smack bang in the international school holidays. There are also classes (classes – school) during term time. More information on the KidStartNow website.
What the KidStartNow experience taught me about encouraging bilingualism as a monolingual parent:
- Kids who are good at code-switching can be reluctant to talk to their parents in a foreign language, and spying on them during an immersion class can help break the ice. Really! The effect is more like Big Brother the reality TV show than Big Brother the scary dystopian panopticon.
- Exposing learners to success with new people and situations can help put them at ease with their abilities.
Read also: Christy’s review of the December 2013 camp her kids attended.
Wow. I am having no luck getting my own son to do after school Mandarin classes. He associates Chinese with being stalked by paparazzi (photographed non-stop in China) and is adamant. I’d love to get him into this course. Also glad to hear someone else is getting the ridiculous infographic emails. One guy emailed me four times recently wondering why I hadn’t shared his infographic on beer.
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Why haven’t you posted the info graphic on beer??!
Yes, the paparazzi can be a shock in some places! This was definitely a good class to entice the reluctant learner. Hopefully you find something equally as enticing in your area.
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Wow! This sounds awesome. I can’t imagine how shocked/surprised/delighted I’d be to hear my child speak Chinese. I’ve I’ve had other surprises like that from my children. It’s always incredible to realize that they really are people independent of you.
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They’re full of surprises sometimes. A sign of independence for sure – that’s a good thought.
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So interesting to read this. We are committed to sending our kids to a bilingual primary school here in Australia. There is a Chinese option (which would be our language of choice) but it is not as full on as other choices, so I have actually been researching what options exist overseas so we could supplement in holiday times and when we no doubt spend an extended period overseas at some point.
I have read that the best time to learn a language is when under the age of 6! So could definitely be worth sending T along.
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I didn’t even know we had bilingual primary schools in Australia. Our nephew took a number of language units but it was just a small part of the curriculum. Well! Hasn’t our education system come a long way?
One of our friends spent a year in Taiwan with their kids attending a Montessori there. They’ve been back for holidays since – the school lets them attend for a few weeks over the summer period. But definitely in Singapore you could also find a kids’ language class.
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There are not many bilingual schools and not many people seem to know about them. I am not even sure if there are any outside Melbourne. They seem to be dropping back the hours all the time too – the Chinese ones were half of the time in Chinese a couple of years ago, now only 8 hours a week. We are looking at a private school so they get 90% of the time in the other language to start with.
Most primary schools offer another language now but generally only an hour a week and often by an unqualified teacher as there are nowhere near enough LOTE teachers.
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Yes, the latter sounds more like what our Nephew had – an hour or so a week. Shame there’s not enough LOTE teachers.
90% in the other language is quite a lot – you’d definitely get the immersion thing going there.
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I like the way P smiles in those photos. Looks like he’s really engaged during those lessons… I mean, camp. My kids are resistant to speaking Chinese, although we ARE Chinese! Sad to say. I’d love to bring them to this class. Sounds like a great one for my kids! Thanks for sharing this.
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Yes, it’s a genuine smile (and you saw his acting skills above – he can’t fake getting on a train so he definitely can’t fake that).
I’d definitely recommend the class as they made it lots of fun (P can be a tough cookie in that regard). P was one of the oldest (one other boy about the same age) so that helped him as well, but more importantly the smaller class size. The teacher helped put him at ease, too – she was a gentle teacher. So hopefully your kids would be the same (although being Chinese you might have higher standards than me when it comes to the result! so check Christy’s review as well).
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What a coincidence! Our 5-year-old daughter is enrolled in a week-long, fullday French immersion camp, in the beginning of August. Let’s hope she is not going to return addicted to Vichy water, Louis Vuitton bags, and Channel shoes. 🙂 I enjoyed very much your post Brownyn!
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Haha – true, you’ve got to be careful what you sign up for! But hopefully she’ll love it. They’re definitely at a good age to be soaking up foreign languages, before they get too stuck on understanding everything they hear.
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The amazing part is that you still went or push to enter your kid even after against all the requirements. Well, him knowing a lot of Chinese words without you knowing, is great acting in itself. He really got you. 😀 Such a fun read, Brownwyn Joy.
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True! He was fooling me all along! I should give some acting credit for that!
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“Chinese” is a catch all for major languages and hundreds of minor dialects and unrelated languages which are China. Singapore has been promoting Mandarin in their schools from my time there. It’s good for foreign children to learn Mandarin as it gives access to the huge Chinese diaspora around the world who are interlinked for business purposes. Much more practical than learning a European language in this day and age where most of the business opportunities are in the Asia Pacific.
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Yes – for clarification for anyone following along at home, “Chinese” usually refers to Mandarin Chinese in Singapore. If referring to another form of Chinese people will say they’re speaking “in dialect” (even though that may not always be the linguistically accurate term) – although I’ve noticed people using “dialect” to refer more specifically to Hokkien, too, so I think sometimes you just have to interpret in context.
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Yes you have quite a mix of dialects in Sin-ja-pur! At least among the older generation. The emphasis on Mandarin was a move to draw all these together into one Singaporean Chinese culture, and of course to prepare the people there to do business in China. Of course the Cantonese in S China are stubbornly hanging onto their language stream, as do the Shanghi community but eventually Mandarin will win.
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Oh yes, the Hong Kong/Singapore tussle. Well, there are an awful lot of Mandarin speakers.
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Great story. I can imagine myself being much less of a good sport about the class, oh, I mean camp, than P was. Making learning fun is obviously a huge factor in education. –Curt
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I can’t believe how hard I kept sabotaging my initial efforts on the camp/school thing. But yes, can’t blame him for being hesitant. They did do a good job of the fun thing – he hasn’t had a turn-around in response to actual school like that 🙂
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So cool! I totally want to get z in some language courses ASAP! This sounds like a great program… I wonder if I could find something like this in Phuket… Probably 🙂
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Well I don’t have any info for you on Phuket, but there must be classes of some kind there. The way they integrated storytelling and technology was something new to me – not sure how widespread the exact methodology is. Regardless, you’re bound to turn up something worth signing up for.
How was the medical check?
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It was awesome!
Actually I just wrote a post about how awesome it was. 🙂 I seem to be all normal… Who knew!? Haha
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Oh! Hasn’t come up in my reader yet. I’ll pop over. I’ve been wondering!
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Camps are a GREAT opportunity for kids to try something out to see how they like it. That’s what we did with lacrosse – had to make sure they liked the game before I invested in equipment.
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We are very new to the whole idea of camps (as stated in the title) but it was definitely a good experience and you’re right – a great opportunity for a taster without having to sign up all term or buy a whole stack of stuff.
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Whilst it is true that P gets little everyday Chinese away from school, I wonder how much the difference between little and nothing counts. His parents are just pushy and able enough to make him do his Chinese homework on the weekend, and read the storybooks from the school library, after all.
That doesn’t take away from the fantastic class, but it might set expectations …
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Or in other words, credit where credit’s due (to you) for reading him those Chinese picture books? Fair point.
Modelling fluency in the target language is great if you can but I think parental attitude can make a difference by itself.
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That’s not quite what I meant … I just wanted to moderate the reaction that he’s a linguistic prodigy …
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Heh.
But I think it is true that in the beginning a little can go a long way.
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Wow, it is amazing how quickly he caught on!!
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One of those things where a lot of things were in there, but they needed unlocking! The school promises to encourage a desire to learn Chinese so I think they definitely achieved that aim.
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Quite interesting what a change of scenery and peers can do. And perhaps it’s not only that but the age as well. My middle son does not like to speak German to non-native speakers (or on command). My oldest was the same way up until about a year ago. And what a proud mama moment when he spoke with his teacher in Chinese!
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Is that true? That’s interesting. I wonder if it is a mark of maturity, maybe to have sorted out when and how to use different languages, and then the class acting as a catalyst. Mind you, T seems to be ok to speak (or attempt) whatever sounds she hears – she’s not fussy. Must be a personality element as well. There’s no doubt whole bodies of research on language learning that would give me insight here.
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Yes, for the first several years, he absolutely refused to speak to anyone except native speakers in German. I remember distinctly being on a playground in the US and saying something like “come here” to him in German. He was angry, and told me that we don’t speak that language here. But in the last (school) year, that’s all changed. Perhaps it’s confidence, perhaps its maturity, perhaps both with a dash of personality. My middle son has followed the same route, and doesn’t like our German dinner conversation. But it might take him longer because languages never were his thing, and my eldest spoke English very early. I’ve heard girls talk earlier and are more adept at language than boys, but I wouldn’t know :).
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Sounds like that thing where they get “the rules” into their heads and they can’t deviate from them. Then as they mature they start to get a bit more flexible/have a more nuanced understanding of the rules (or just a more correct idea, in certain cases).
Girls – you know, I didn’t see any difference in their English language abilities, except that T got the hang of her pronouns earlier. What I do see is that she’s more willing to mimic even if she doesn’t understand (she was mimicking another toddler’s Japanese on the MRT the other week), but I think that’s more personality. On the other hand, you’d think that might possibly translate into better language abilities as time goes by.
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Yep – sure looks like a Fun Camp to me! I am so impressed. What a great way to ease the kids into joining in – and the parents’ viewing room is brilliant.
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The parents’ viewing area is definitely an innovation. They use Skype! So we watch the class via Skype from the next room. It’s great to be able to watch but you know how it can change things if the parents actually sit right there.
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I am glad P like it! He’s probably much more fluent than you think. Being kept in a 2 hours Chinese speaking environment helps greatly for anyone who’s trying to learn the language. You have no choice but to be forced to speak. And I agree it’s just the right amount of time before one has an overdose. Oh, I love P’s smile in the photographs. I seem to see the same smile in all the kids in Kid Start Now photos! Now maybe they should have classes for adults too :p They seem to have started some coding class too. Check that out!
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He is definitely better at it than I realised. Not to say he can’t learn a few more things going forward! I really got a pleasant surprise when he started speaking, though, and now he seems so much more comfortable speaking in front of me.
Actually, just before I put him to bed he started arguing with me in Chinese. Luckily I know how to count to three in quite a number of languages so he won’t get away with that one just yet…
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It’s important to show off some foreign language basics to the kids. I am impressed by the romantized Chinese question you’ve written here. We call it han yu pin yin – English lettered translation of Chinese phonics. Where did you get this from? 🙂
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Yes, I thought putting Chinese characters up might be one step too far for a non-Chinese-speaking audience – also I would have had to figure out how to type the characters 🙂 .
I actually asked P to translate the question for me. He got me started then I double-checked the grammar by googling a bit. In the dim, distant past I did beginner-level Chinese which I’ve mostly forgotten but it helped in this scenario (easier than starting completely from scratch).
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Sounds like a great class, sorry, camp! I wouldn’t mind putting my kids in a class like that (but maybe adding Chinese to our language mix would be a bit too much…) Awesome that you support your kids learning Chinese as well, what ever level they reach, it can only be helpful.
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Haha – yes, give them a couple of weeks to get their current languages down pat before introducing another 🙂 .
But I think the concept is great and could be transferred to classes in other languages. And maybe (it seems from the comments) adult classes as well!
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I’d totally sign my husband up for one of those in Finnish! 😀
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I wondered how your husband got on in Finnish. He must have a working knowledge by now (?) but the real question is can he win an argument with his wife in Finnish?? 🙂
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He understands fairly well and gets on alright with children but he works in English and everyone speaks English to him so… is there any language in the world where the husband can win an argument? 😉
When we moved to Finland I was appalled to find out how poor the Finnish courses are as well, that is, the ones given in the evenings. They make you do three years of grammar before they put any emphasis on communicating. How twisted is that? I’ve heard the day courses for unemployed people great though but he’s been clearly too successful in landing jobs here….
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Ha! You’re right, the argument thing clearly isn’t a fair measure of language ability 🙂 .
I guess that’s the trouble when you have the kind of job where you work in a “common/corporate language” rather than the local one. On the other hand, it makes landing jobs easier even if you don’t speak the local language, so…
Yeah, the communication/grammar thing isn’t practical. I can see the sense in knowing grammar and everything, but there must be plenty of people who just want to be able to go out and speak straight away.
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…or at least so much vocabulary and communicating that one can start to pick up more by talking to people and to make it in shops etc (where most times the staff anyway use English immediately… we are not very used to having foreigners learn Finnish…). Finnish grammar is so different and complex that very few foreigners actually master it but it doesn’t require perfect grammar to be able to speak it well enough to be understood.
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True in any language that grammar can be sketchy and yet people still make themselves understood in daily life (look at native English speakers…)
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That is awesome that you’re having him taught Chinese. It became obvious to me some years ago that if you want to pick two languages on the planet to speak, they should be Chinese and English. My career was in logistics in Canada and,even though the other official language here is French, there were more job openings for bilingual Mandarin/English. than French/English or English alone or French alone. I visited China some years ago and did some investment investigations with a business team and it was eye-opening. Unbelievable. They have completely leapfrogged some developmental steps that Western countries went through. For instance, everyone had a cell phone even in a lot of rural areas. They had started erecting towers where phone/data/telegraph lines had neve even existed. And the popultaion density was unreal – all of which translates into huge business opportnities. They already have the second largest economy in the world – and they’ve only just begun. There are areas where the average household income is less than $500 per year – and they still are #2 in economy – imagine when they really get going. And they are determned and eager to work hard. All that to say that by the time P is ready to enter the workforce he will have a leg up on most of his contemporaries by being fluent in Chinese.
Sounds like you found a winner in his Chinese teacher, Bronwyn. It is so great to see a young person absorbing languages or new material. They are like sponges.
Take care and great post.
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Chinese is a good one, although you know – languages in general at this age, I think. It wasn’t the fashion to teach second languages when I was six, but a lot of schools are doing language units now. (Our nephew touched on several at the same age – I once asked him how the Indonesian was going and he loftily told me they’d stopped because “they’d learnt it all”.)
So Chinese might be a good choice and we’re lucky that classes are available in Singapore, but if not then whatever’s to hand is good, too. They say the first three languages are the hardest, don’t they?
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Oh my, Chinese speaking genius kiddies as well. I have been trying to “assimilate” into Australia and hide any Chinese-ness in our family and you are embracing the culture I’ve left behind. Good stuff and I love learning more about your family through each post. xo
PS: Language immersion school, please sign me up as well.
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Don’t hide all the Chinese-ness! Well, I mean I understand it’s a tricky business – what to keep, how to adapt. Keeping stuff is part of the process, though.
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Can I join?? I too want something interesting, animated, fun and lively for me to practise my rusty chinese rather than just trying out my rusty chinese on my poor neighbouring colleagues. I hardly get to practise properly so this would be awesome…but shucks! It’s just for kids…>.<
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They need to look into an adult learner’s class it seems! You would look good in the top hat…
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I would so totally go for that! Hat and all…;)
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You must have almost fallen off your chair to hear him speak Chinese so well. My jaw dropped open. 🙂 what a great week at school, I mean camp of course.
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Yes, camp. Camp.
I was quite surprised. I mean I won’t say he’s just like a native speaker or anything, but he’s a darn site better than he’d led me to believe.
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Wouldn’t it be something if you caught him speaking Italian tomorrow. 🙂 never know what these little brain so have up their sleeve. 🙂
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I’m actually hoping for Latin. Can you imagine him wandering around the house all, “Bonitas non est pessimis ease meliorem…”
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Might get a little freaky at that point 🙂
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Actually yes, that might be a bit much. Sounds like the kind of thing that happens just before you find symbols drawn in blood and weird-smelling incense and freaky demons from another dimension.
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That type of thing popped into my head too. Let’s be happy with the Chinese vocabulary for now 🙂
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Chinese sounds really friendly by comparison (and keep in mind I’ve watched a few Kung Fu movies).
Then again, what did the story of the shark teach us about being scared of things?
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Anything beats having to call in the exorcist. 🙂
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Yeah, don’t fancy scrubbing that kind of vomit out of the walls, either.
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Beautiful post, Bronwyn 🙂
As we started sending our three year old daughter to play school, I am in a better position to understand your posts, now a days 🙂
As my wife has to go to work early in the morning, it’s my turn to make her ready and drop to the play school, and bring her back.
It’s no mean task mothers are doing for ages, I could see now 🙂
Thanks a lot for sharing and have a great day…
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Æ also does the morning kindergarten drop-off for the youngest. Mind you, she’s the one who’s keen to go – a bit easier than the reluctant pupil! So happy to hear that Dad gets his turn as well as Mum in your house 🙂
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